I'm not sure if you'll meet anyone more green or wet behind the ears than me when it comes to old homes. I'm very much a guy born of the disposable era, raised in a household were there was Zero weight placed on keeping anything old, or restoring anything... and of the 3 homes I've owned, 2 have been 70's era junk with 1 50's era brick ranch (that started some appreciation for era-specific touches). I was born and raised in Wyoming after my parents fled from Minnesota and put 1000 miles between us the the closest family.
My wife, on the other hand, is from Georgia and has roots here (within 50 miles of us) for well over 200 years. Her mom has kept absolutely EVERYTHING from her childhood as well as her brothers, and she's always wanted to live in a "cute bungalow".
We bought a 70's tri-level a couple years back, did our normal remodel (functional windows, doors, new floors, gutted bathrooms, etc...) ~ Ikea birch butcher-block counters with a craigslist cast iron sink, I refaced the cabinets, VCT flooring in the kitchen and laundry, hardwood (elm IIRC), etc... I'm fairly handy when I don't care about the structure. The plan has always been to turn this house into a rental, it was too cheap to pass up (and got us out of a 500sq/ft unfinished cabin ~ aka the "guest house" on my in-laws property). Anyway, that's the background....
As of today, we're about 2 weeks out from closing on a 1930 built Tudor Revival that's been in foreclosure for about a year:
So we've been talking about what to do with the house. It's really in rather good condition, though with some updates that are.. well, I'll just say that I'm far from a purist and they irritate me. We were going to do OUR normal of replacing windows until the cost got in the way (21 windows? I think that's more than we had in the past 2 homes combined). I'll bet you're glad to hear that cost got in the way because now I know better.... I KNEW the glass was old because of the wave, and I really didn't want to change the appearance, but we've seen just how much of a difference good insulated glass makes in noise levels alone. I'm hoping that with storm windows and the originals cleaned and weather-stripped that we can cut down on street noise (it's 1 house in from the main highway in/out of town with a busy gas station/shop as our neighbors across the alley).
Anyway, looking into window info brought me here... or rather, to the old forum and then a link from there to here (along with a few other sites). This forum seems like it's more active, which is why I joined here and am doing the intro.... Lets look at some more photos real quick (these were from inspection day):
Steps (everything) needs to be pressure cleaned:
There are 3 areas with this tile, this is the worst of it:
Shutter hold-backs? Original? What style shutter would you see on an all-brick tudor style?
Raised front covered porch:
Back of the house (3 open fire places, 1 that's walled over, all were coal-burners originally), love the chimney pots:
Front living room with newer built-ins, badly DIY refinished floors and a shameful retile of the fireplace:
Dining room:
Modern kitchen remodel (apparently was 3 rooms):
The "blue room", front bedroom cut off from the living room by the built-ins and access to the front raised porch:
Central hall (kitchen on right, blue room behind and left, dining room behind and right, gust bath just left and 2 bedrooms dead ahead:
Guest bath (modern remodel, minus the terrible tub condition):
Second bedroom that has access to the breezeway between the house and garage (with fireplace):
Master bedroom (with fireplace) ~ I think this is an add-on, though a very good/old one:
Master bath with more awful tile, no shower:
Master closet ~ cedar-lined and good sized:
And this has had everyone stumped. There's crown molding in most rooms, but then there's a ~1/2" gap with Another piece of molding that looks like chair rail. In the bedrooms, this 2nd molding is the only thing there.... what are the chances of it being Picture molding?
The chimneys don't have a flue, just straight up and out...
older thermostat (with day/night settings?), guessing that its not original since there's a coal cute in the crawl space, and it's not currently connected:
Then there's some brick issue...
So, something could always go awry and he sale fall through, though I doubt it (have bank approval, just waiting on the appraisal and the inspection turned up a "worst" of needing about $1000 in roofing repair that I've already had inspected and quoted). But I'm guessing that we're going to be the owners of this property about 10 days from now. We have to do Some work, like the kitchen floor (VCT tile) that's cracking and falling apart... I've seen this with poor subfloor prep. Oh, and the "laundry" area (kitchen) that's about 6" shy of allowing our washer and dry doors to open. Master bath will be gutted, save the tub, install a shower, convert an old wash stand into a vanity... Refinish floors (paid contractor, they're really bad from the last DIY job), then it's on to cleaning and repairing the windows. I'd love to keep the doors too, but several of them can nearly be pushed open and I'm not sure how to better secure them.... I'll search and ask before ditching them though. Then there's probably a mile of plaster crack that needs to be repaired as well, and painting... lots and lots of painting.
Hey, if you made it this far... umm, wow? Maybe you need some help? No, thanks for reading. ANY comments or advice would be appreciated and read... encouragements will be stored for later. If anyone is near 31816 in Georgia, I'm an avid beer brewer, you're welcome to help me lighten some kegs.
Cheers,
Brian
Hello from GA (Photo heavy!)
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I wish I were closer to Georgia because a) I could use a good beer and b) This house is beyond adorable. Seriously, this Tudor screams curb appeal to me. Your brick steps look to be in excellent condition to me, and your porch floor is in ten times better shape than mine. We also had brick issues (my house is 150 years old) but the repairs only took the mason 2 days, so it may not be as bad as you think.
I'm partial to a Tudor without shutters, but since it appears you had them before, you'd likely replace them with a board and batten style. http://blog.shadesshuttersblinds.com/fe ... -shutters/
That's all I have for now! I'll let those with far more experience weigh in!
I'm partial to a Tudor without shutters, but since it appears you had them before, you'd likely replace them with a board and batten style. http://blog.shadesshuttersblinds.com/fe ... -shutters/
That's all I have for now! I'll let those with far more experience weigh in!
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Re: Hello from GA (Photo heavy!)
Such a house! Don't give up on the doors yet, latches are easy to fix and plentiful to buy if need be. Was that front porch glassed in at one time?
Cheers!
Chaz
Cheers!
Chaz
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Neighmond wrote:Such a house! Don't give up on the doors yet, latches are easy to fix and plentiful to buy if need be. Was that front porch glassed in at one time?
Cheers!
Chaz
Our best guess on the front porch (and the breezeway) is that they were screened. Doesn't make a lot of sense to glass in a room here in Georgia since there are usually only a couple days a year where it'd be cold enough to use. But it makes a lot of sense to keep bugs out of an outdoor space, especially if it gets good breeze ~ which it should. Our normal breeze here comes from the south (off a hill, they call it a mountain in these parts though), which is the Back of the house. Regardless, I get to scrape caulk off brick and fix the places where mounting hardware has been left behind/sticking out.
For the doors, it's not the latches but the massive gaps between the door and the frame. This is especially evident on the french doors in the living room (biggest worry, someone could Stumble into them and land on the floor in the house), and the doors in the 2 bedrooms. The kitchen door has already been replaced, and will be so again so we can remove the dog/cat door. But, I'll look into them, take detailed photos and ask lots of questions...
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Re: Hello from GA (Photo heavy!)
Solid doors can almost always be fixed IF you find a decent carpenter. Mine butchered the door worse than I as a novice could have, but that's another story.
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Re: Hello from GA (Photo heavy!)
Welcome to Wavyglass. The home looks ready to go, just move in make more wort and relax. At least for the first year, don't do any thing till you have lived with the home for a year or so. Get to know
The home, you might just find it works good for you.
The home, you might just find it works good for you.
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Re: Hello from GA (Photo heavy!)
Super house. I remember looking at some Victorian houses in 1979 around Thomasville that had FP in every single room! That's my dream house.
Yours looks very solid, except that the cracks in the brickwork are troubling; it looks like part is moving away, not settling, but separating. If that's a foundation/subsoil issue it can get expensive real quick. Sad to say that scenario goes hand in hand with doors not closing properly.
House does look like it was cared for somewhat, and that no damned flippers have ever gotten to it.
Casey
Yours looks very solid, except that the cracks in the brickwork are troubling; it looks like part is moving away, not settling, but separating. If that's a foundation/subsoil issue it can get expensive real quick. Sad to say that scenario goes hand in hand with doors not closing properly.
House does look like it was cared for somewhat, and that no damned flippers have ever gotten to it.
Casey
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Welcome, great house, very hansom over all. I wonder if the front door has been replaced. Tudors usually had curved solid wood doors with a small window, often of leaded glass diamonds & a curved screen door as well. Do your windows retain the shutter hardware besides the shutter dog you show? I am a fan of properly installed shutters with operable hinges---not simply screwed to the walls! I suppose your kitchen originally had a butler's pantry, a cook's kitchen and separate laundry room. The original owner probably had a servant or two. I gather the door to the living room from the blue room was simply blocked off & they didn't bother to finish blocking off the doorway on the blue room side?! You could build in a book case in that opening or reopen it as original. I echo not making any major changes until you have lived there for a year. Have fun!