Kitchen floor woes

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SarahFair
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Re: Kitchen floor woes

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Okay, so I got more pictures for yall.

I went up into the attic. I didn't walk around because if I feel through the ceiling the SO would never let me stay home alone again, LOL, so the pictures are a little harder to decipher.

I took a picture of the dining room chimney as a comparison to (what I think is) the kitchen stove chimney.
Its rather far back there and to the left.

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These next series of photos are from the crawlspace under the kitchen.
I tried getting a couple piers and the subfloor.

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And then I pulled out the stove where they've hardwired it into the electric box below.

You can see old white linoleum floor (probably from the 90s early 2000s).
But that wasn't good enough.. so i pulled off the trim.
It looks like there is some sort of red linoleum down there as well..
I couldn't get any cut back because this current floor is thick..
But I'm soooooo tempted to just start yanking.

What do yall think now?
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Ober51
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Re: Kitchen floor woes

Post by Ober51 »

Interesting. To me, that rightmost window looks to be cut out of a door with panels. Unless I am totally off and looking at something different.

phil
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Re: Kitchen floor woes

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I'd cut a chunk of the red lyno out and have it tested. At work they are very cautious about asbestos and things. they have a floor in one room that is very old and they were concerned about asbestos. I saw it it is nice stuff. Its called battleship lynoleum and it has a jute backing. that stuff is green. In my living room I am about to take up the old carpet and under that is a similar product. I found remnants in my kitchen and I think that's what was down in my kitchen originally, green battleship lynoleum . it was really good stuff.

I think what I have in my living room is cork with a jute backing. I don't' think this has asbestos. I think they laid a sheet of some sort of paper down under the lyno and maybe that's asbestos I don't know. I had some asbestos tests done on some drywall as was removing because they make us, we can't get rid of pre 1980 drywall without this test. It cost 50 bucks for the test. my drywall and my ceiling tile did not have asbestos. they said it's not usually in the drywall but it's often found in old drywall filler.

You'll commonly find tile, it is usually squares about 9" x9" or so. it doesn't have jute backing. I think that stuff is often asbestos. removal of most of the flooring shouldn't be difficult but if they put mastic down against the wood it may be hard to get off so I'd try to test any adhesives to see what dissolves them and what does not. under the fridge is a good spot to cut some out and have a look.

Some would just mask up, pull it all out and be done with it. Others would call the guys in clean white suits.

If you knowingly have asbestos and you sell a house here you need to declare it so I asked the testing company if they shared the test results and they said no, it's confidential.
If you knew it was asbestos and you hired someone to remove it without telling them it would be against the law as you are then knowingly putting them at risk. If you have a test done on any suspected materials and it isn't asbestos then it would ease your worry.

another common place to find asbestos is in the paper tape around heat ducts. some freak out but I think if you just wrap it in wet paper towel , the adhesive lets go and you can take it, and the asbestos paper out while it's wet then you aren't stirring up the dust. touching it wont' hurt you its breathing the dust that's hazardous. good to wear a good mask when you do any of this stuff as that really old dust may have all kinds of things in it.

It looks like you have a new meter and I see romex in your attic so it looks like your place was re-wired? The stove should have an outlet. someone cheaped out on that. you could probably steal the cord from another old stove and buy a new outlet. It might be a problem if you don't have enough length to reach . Normally if a wire is cut short you need to use a junction box to join the wire and the junction box can't be covered or hidden. I'd check with an electrician if it's ok to use a junction box for the range cable. Is it old wire or did they run a new range cable?
mine was an old cloth covered one . I replaced it. the wire is quite thick so a new one might be a hundred bucks depending on length. - lots of copper in it. hopefully they have already run a new cable and if they did arid wire it then maybe you have enough length to reach the box which should be in the wall behind the stove. I would think you;ld need to have stove outlet to make it meet code but I'm not an electrician. Usually if stuff is hard wired it would need a place to shut it off and lock it out.

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