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New "Green" grant

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:49 am
by JacquieJet
Thoughts?
https://news.ontario.ca/ene/en/2017/12/ ... -home.html

Not sure if this also applies to storm windows... but even so, this may encourage others to ditch some of their home's original features. Or am I wrong?

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:08 am
by Gothichome
Not sure if it covers storm windows but the new window salesmen are rubbing thier hands with glee. The geothermal/heat pump idea I think is worth a look though. Only thing with those systems is the high up front costs really long payback time, and the cost of electricity to run the pump.

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:38 pm
by heartwood
replacing windows is the least 'green' thing a homeowner can do...
the folks who set up the grants and the folks who write the articles are drunk
with koolaid...this is how homeowners become misinformed and it doesn't
sit well with me...hocus-pocus!! it's called 'the magic of capitalism'.....
..jade

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:44 pm
by 1918ColonialRevival
heartwood wrote:replacing windows is the least 'green' thing a homeowner can do...
the folks who set up the grants and the folks who write the articles are drunk
with koolaid...this is how homeowners become misinformed and it doesn't
sit well with me...
..jade


+1000

Even though the "green" mafia doesn't care about original architectural features, they never stop to think that all of those discarded windows have to go somewhere. It kind of reminds me of the so-called "environmentalists" protesting the oil pipeline in the Midwest and all of the mountains of trash they left behind when they were finished.

I know I sometimes have a negative attitude, but any time I see the words "green", "environmentally friendly", "eco-", etc., the thesaurus in my brain automatically translates it to "scam".

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:41 pm
by JacquieJet
It seems scam-y, for sure. Just like the Energy Star appliances, that have a lifespan of 5-10 years. How is that eco friendly? I don't get it.
Also, on that tangent... when we started running our 1940's refrigerator, our electricity bill only jumped about $5-$10 a month (and this was an additional fridge for us, not a replacement of the other one... so that is literally the running cost). Energy Star sucks.
Anyway, if this rebate applies to storm windows, then I'll do it- we need new storms anyway- but overall this type of thing makes me nervous.

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:52 am
by heartwood
I just sent a note to the ministry of the environment and climate change....not to worry, I was polite and professional...
it'll be interesting to see if they respond...
...jade

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:17 pm
by JacquieJet
heartwood wrote:I just sent a note to the ministry of the environment and climate change....not to worry, I was polite and professional...
it'll be interesting to see if they respond...
...jade


Please let us know if they do! I'm interested in what they have to say. Great thinking, Jade!

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:49 pm
by Jeepnstein
The best money on "green" on our old houses is in the heating and cooling department. I reduced our electricity consumption by around 40% by switching to ducted inverter mini splits. The system should last for many years.

Windows? Replacing them makes very little sense especially if you consider the cost of making a wooden storm. I actually had one window manufacturer threaten to testify at my competency hearing if I tried to order replacements through him. He was right and his numbers didn't lie.

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:11 am
by heartwood
this is what I heard back from the ministry...actually I am pleasantly surprised that they responded...

Thank you for your email regarding rebates for historic windows. We appreciate the feedback that you have provided and we will consider the information for future program designs.

...jade

Re: New "Green" grant

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:47 am
by Sashguy
Do you think that certification training early on would put you into a position to promote preservation as a part of the program?
It is quite effective here.