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Light fixture part question

Postby Old house lady » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:33 pm

Good morning! This light is missing a piece but Im unsure of what to look for... Should it be a bowl, a 'flying saucer', a flat plate-shape? The only part Im sure of is the need for a center hole, and Im 99% sure it should be clear. Its in a 3rd floor room, originally part of the children's playroom which was split into 3 rooms sometime in the mid-late 40s

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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Lily left the valley » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:05 pm

Old house lady wrote:Good morning! This light is missing a piece but Im unsure of what to look for... Should it be a bowl, a 'flying saucer', a flat plate-shape? The only part Im sure of is the need for a center hole, and Im 99% sure it should be clear. Its in a 3rd floor room, originally part of the children's playroom which was split into 3 rooms sometime in the mid-late 40s

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I'm still learning lamp vocab myself. Here's a site 1918ColonialRevival pointed out to me that I've been using to look for parts . "Dish" seems to be the proper term I think for what you need.
https://www.grandbrass.com/category/glass_lamp_shades-dish_and_empire_style_shades/glass_lamp_shades/
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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Manalto » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:18 pm

I understood your question to mean that you wanted to know what the missing part looked like, as well as the terminology.
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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Old house lady » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:29 pm

Thank you both! Yes, while scrounging through yard and estate sales, Im hoping to find the right replacement, so I need to know what to look for. But, its nice to have the proper name as well :P

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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Lily left the valley » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:27 pm

I tried to do an image match search, but not having much luck because the shade is missing.

Also, the company linked below is where I found a lamp similar to one that was gifted to us so I knew how to refurb ours when we get to it. You might find something similar there to work off too. They have just shades available as well as fixtures to use for research. You can search by year or style. There's also a SOLD! link on the top menu with more, but I don't think those are as easily searchable by year.

I bet if you send them your picture, they could give you a better idea than I can of what you'd need.

Their site is here: http://www.vintagelights.com/

I almost wonder, if it was one of those really fancy shades like the Virdens on that site. But the bulb orientation in most of those isn't sideways from what little I can see, so I'm really not sure. Yet it does make me wonder if you have the old smaller circular bulbs instead if it would have had one of those shades. They have later (30-40s) flatter style that definitely would accommodate the bulb orientation, though it's a deco look overall. It won't let me copy it and I don't have time to hunt through the source code, so you can see that one here: http://www.vintagelights.com/product/1/mid-century-chandelier-early-30s-2-matching-available.html

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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Gothichome » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:32 pm

Oldhouselady, I invision some thing like this
http://www.vintagelights.com/product/4/ ... xture.html
Or maybe a shade like those used on torchiers

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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Old house lady » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:24 am

Those are beautiful! Thank you both for the links - this site is now bookmarked for ideas (and the occassional daydream)

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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Willa » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:29 am

Not a vintage lighting expert by any means, but I think what you are missing is the 1930's/40's glass shade, with a centre hole, which was probably a soft pastel or frosted embossed glass, like these:

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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby Lily left the valley » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:39 am

Willa wrote:Not a vintage lighting expert by any means, but I think what you are missing is the 1930's/40's glass shade, with a centre hole, which was probably a soft pastel or frosted embossed glass, like these:
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Oh Willa, you read my mind somehow. :thumbup: The second above is a closer variant to what I was thinking in my head after looking at the Virdens. My concern for the usual dish is it might not be deep enough. Most of the dish fixtures I've seen usually have two bulbs, not four, and given the length of the center stem that goes through the shade hole, it seemed logical that a deeper type was made for that width.
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Re: Light fixture part question

Postby phil » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:40 pm

thinking a little outside the box, if you are in thrift stores and such you could notice candy dishes or cake trays might have a hole and be the right shape. I'm sure you can look at the ones from lighting places as well but just a thought.

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to me one hint is the glass ball thing.. . obviously that went on the outside of the fixture so it probably had some tie in in the design
I love that bulb , it is an unusual shape. Radio tubes with that shape of glass envelope are called "ST" shape.. not sue what ST stands for, earlier ones are globes usually. an example
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with 4 bulbs you have a certain amount of heat so it needs to not melt down , so I wouldn't' choose a plastic replica unless you go to LED bulbs , they burn cool.

Im sure you will find many examples of beautiful shades. a lot are real works of art and can be pricey. If you have a local glass blower maybe they would also have some offerings?


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