Here's after painting the walls, shellacking the window frames and refinishing the floor (I hired someone to do the floor):
Before:
After:
As I said above, this room is going to be revisited in the future. The drywall will be removed and the plaster restored. Besides that, the wall opposite of the four windows was added recently. I don't know what the original layout of the room was but I'm going to remove the newly added walls and do something different.
Next I'll post what I've done in my back upstairs bedroom (light blue room), that will bring me up to real time and then updates will be more sporadic but probably more detailed if anyone is interested.
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It sure has some neat and unusual features. what struck me is how the sides of it sort of tapers out to form some overhang for the lower story. It might be gingerbread but it sure isn't a cookie cutter house. How's that for a technical description?
It looks like your restoration work is going very well.
It looks like your restoration work is going very well.
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Wow. There's a LOT going on in the design of your house. It's a mix of at least three styles that were popular in the closing years of the 19th Century. I'm seeing elements of Queen Anne, Dutch Colonial, and Neoclassical Revival. You are fortunate in that a lot of the millwork and hardware appears to be original.
The radiator heat was likely added in the 1910-1920 era.
Looks like it's coming together nicely!
The radiator heat was likely added in the 1910-1920 era.
Looks like it's coming together nicely!
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Thanks, it's certainly a difficult to pin down style.
As for the radiator heat, you can tell from the installation that it wasn't original. I found that sort of amusing at first, I'm used to thinking of old houses being built with radiator heat, not having it added as a modernization. Somewhat thankfully it was switched to forced air by the same owner that installed new electrical and plumbing along with drywalling everything.
On to some pics of the progress on one of my bedrooms...
I started out just stripping the mantle to see what it looked like and I found out why it was painted
I was disappointed to find burn damage but I continued stripping and sanding anyway. I'm intent on not painting it so I will either try to repair the burn damage or simply live with what I can't reasonably sand past.
Continued....
I then got to work on stripping windows, I explored a little here:
And a couple months later got to work:
As for the radiator heat, you can tell from the installation that it wasn't original. I found that sort of amusing at first, I'm used to thinking of old houses being built with radiator heat, not having it added as a modernization. Somewhat thankfully it was switched to forced air by the same owner that installed new electrical and plumbing along with drywalling everything.
On to some pics of the progress on one of my bedrooms...
I started out just stripping the mantle to see what it looked like and I found out why it was painted
I was disappointed to find burn damage but I continued stripping and sanding anyway. I'm intent on not painting it so I will either try to repair the burn damage or simply live with what I can't reasonably sand past.
Continued....
I then got to work on stripping windows, I explored a little here:
And a couple months later got to work:
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I hate the drywall over everything so I peeled a little back to see if the old walls looked relatively intact:
They did look somewhat intact so I kept going:
And that brings me to where I more or less paused work on the house for over a year. I have one more of these posts to put up of the progress I've made on this room in the last few weeks after which I'll be making posts whenever I make decent progress. Thanks for the interest!
They did look somewhat intact so I kept going:
And that brings me to where I more or less paused work on the house for over a year. I have one more of these posts to put up of the progress I've made on this room in the last few weeks after which I'll be making posts whenever I make decent progress. Thanks for the interest!
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That wallpaper is delightfully bold up close. Yet in the stepped back shots, it smooths itself out and doesn't have that visually vibrating feeling some bold patterned wallpapers have. What a great find. I hope you save a bit if you're doing a house history book.
And good luck on the mantel! From your progress photos, it seems your perseverance will bear the fruit you are laboring towards. The tile tableau on it is lovely as well.
Thanks for the updates!
And good luck on the mantel! From your progress photos, it seems your perseverance will bear the fruit you are laboring towards. The tile tableau on it is lovely as well.
Thanks for the updates!
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If you are unable to get the scorch marks out of the wood, you could finish the mantel in either a dark walnut or ebony finish to get it to blend a little better. It looks like you were successful in getting much of the damage out, so going with a darker finish will be more forgiving with the permanent scars.
Although the plaster is a little rough in places, I'm not seeing anything that isn't repairable. Just make sure to secure the "old" plaster around any holes or cracks before filling it in. I must say, that was an interesting choice of wallpaper someone had for that bedroom. I almost wonder if it may have been a kid's room or a nursery at one point and the parents let the little one choose their own wallpaper from the samples. Hard to say for sure exactly how old it is, but I've seen similar styled wallpaper in catalogs from the mid '30s to the early '40s.
Sorry to hear the radiator heat has been disconnected. I think most people here will agree with me when I say it's the most comfortable form of heating in the winter months. Much more comfortable than forced air. Some people tend to shy away from it because a boiler system requires a little more maintenance than a forced air unit, but once you've done it a couple of times, it's not too bad. When they are properly maintained, most oil or gas boilers have a higher efficiency than electric forced air units. Something your electric company doesn't want you to know.
Although the plaster is a little rough in places, I'm not seeing anything that isn't repairable. Just make sure to secure the "old" plaster around any holes or cracks before filling it in. I must say, that was an interesting choice of wallpaper someone had for that bedroom. I almost wonder if it may have been a kid's room or a nursery at one point and the parents let the little one choose their own wallpaper from the samples. Hard to say for sure exactly how old it is, but I've seen similar styled wallpaper in catalogs from the mid '30s to the early '40s.
Sorry to hear the radiator heat has been disconnected. I think most people here will agree with me when I say it's the most comfortable form of heating in the winter months. Much more comfortable than forced air. Some people tend to shy away from it because a boiler system requires a little more maintenance than a forced air unit, but once you've done it a couple of times, it's not too bad. When they are properly maintained, most oil or gas boilers have a higher efficiency than electric forced air units. Something your electric company doesn't want you to know.
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Lily left the valley wrote:That wallpaper is delightfully bold up close. Yet in the stepped back shots, it smooths itself out and doesn't have that visually vibrating feeling some bold patterned wallpapers have. What a great find. I hope you save a bit if you're doing a house history book.
And good luck on the mantel! From your progress photos, it seems your perseverance will bear the fruit you are laboring towards. The tile tableau on it is lovely as well.
Thanks for the updates!
That wallpaper was a bit much at first look but it did grow on me as I let it set there for the last year, I did save some to keep for future reference. I have to get around to getting a binder to throw that sort of thing in.
1918ColonialRevival wrote:If you are unable to get the scorch marks out of the wood, you could finish the mantel in either a dark walnut or ebony finish to get it to blend a little better. It looks like you were successful in getting much of the damage out, so going with a darker finish will be more forgiving with the permanent scars.
Although the plaster is a little rough in places, I'm not seeing anything that isn't repairable. Just make sure to secure the "old" plaster around any holes or cracks before filling it in. I must say, that was an interesting choice of wallpaper someone had for that bedroom. I almost wonder if it may have been a kid's room or a nursery at one point and the parents let the little one choose their own wallpaper from the samples. Hard to say for sure exactly how old it is, but I've seen similar styled wallpaper in catalogs from the mid '30s to the early '40s.
Sorry to hear the radiator heat has been disconnected. I think most people here will agree with me when I say it's the most comfortable form of heating in the winter months. Much more comfortable than forced air. Some people tend to shy away from it because a boiler system requires a little more maintenance than a forced air unit, but once you've done it a couple of times, it's not too bad. When they are properly maintained, most oil or gas boilers have a higher efficiency than electric forced air units. Something your electric company doesn't want you to know.
I've been on so much of a "natural finish" kick that I had sort of forgot about the possibility of staining that mantel dark to better hide the scorching, as much as I want to get all the charred areas clear I think staining is a good option to keep in my back pocket.
Yeah, the plaster seems fine. It's mostly solid and the finish is intact under the wallpaper for the most part. I've already got my first round of "Plaster Magic" curing as I type this. Soon I'm going to be taking my first crack at real plastering. I'm now having an internal debate as to whether to attempt the 2 part lime/gauging plaster or just do veneer coat. I bought both to experiment with.
I do love the feel of radiative heat, but I'm not a fan of the extra maintenance, expensive boilers nor do I like the clutter created by the radiators themselves. That being said if the system were currently working I'd keep it and if it were original to my house I would keep the radiators in place for aesthetics working or not. My grandmother had radiators in her house and the boiler was a nightmare, she had one replaced at considerable cost (maybe $10-$15k in the 90's) and it lasted less than 10 years, that story doesn't seem uncommon. I sort of assume that the modern manufacturers of residential boilers do subpar work to be kind. I do love underfloor radiative heating and I would consider that someday, though I don't want to rip up the floors in this house.
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Munch, your stripped woodwork looks great, well better than great, fantastic.a nice stain and some shellac it’ll look brand new and bring out the flash in that leaded window.
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Munch517 wrote:I do love the feel of radiative heat, but I'm not a fan of the extra maintenance, expensive boilers nor do I like the clutter created by the radiators themselves. That being said if the system were currently working I'd keep it and if it were original to my house I would keep the radiators in place for aesthetics working or not. My grandmother had radiators in her house and the boiler was a nightmare, she had one replaced at considerable cost (maybe $10-$15k in the 90's) and it lasted less than 10 years, that story doesn't seem uncommon. I sort of assume that the modern manufacturers of residential boilers do subpar work to be kind.
That's a very unfortunate experience.
It's not unheard of for some boiler contractors to try to take advantage of older people or those who can't watch them like a hawk while they are on the job. When we bought this house, the boiler here was about 15 or so years old. It was obvious to me from the start that it hadn't been maintained how it should have been. The sad thing was, the previous owner of our house who passed away at age 98, was contracting with a company to conduct annual maintenance on the boiler. When I opened the boiler up, it was obvious that the company was taking her money and doing nothing. Inside, the boiler was FILTHY - to the point that I don't think the heat exchanger had ever been cleaned. I spent a whole weekend cleaning it out only to find out the heat exchanger was cracked.
I was able to get a new boiler wholesale through a relative (about $3k) and installed it myself. That was ten years ago and it's doing fine. Every fall, I spend about an hour or so getting it ready for the winter. It's almost therapeutic. Every three years, I take all the panels off and do what I call a deep cleaning, getting soot out from between the fins of the heat exchanger. This takes about 2 or 3 hours.
Some of my neighbors still have the original boilers in their house after more than a century. They were originally coal units that were converted to oil or gas at some point along the way. If a boiler is properly serviced and maintained, there's no reason it shouldn't last indefinitely.